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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 21:28:39 GMT -5
The forum is already destroyed, so this may not matter much but I'm going to reveal all the truth I know regarding the forum hack in this thread. You'll see really soon that things are rather complicated. For the first post, I'll start with only the facts:  This is the security log which saves all administrative actions taken. Note that the most recent are at the top and the oldest at the bottom. Here we have a record of the hacker's actions, the time they did it, and the IP address used. Note: The members who were banned by the hacker are: Commandolam, Daniel, JJuuse, Cozmo. Facts:1) - IPs 166.137.14.157 & 166.137.12.240 did the majority of the destruction, however there is no specific member linked to those IP. However, although IPs 166.137.14.157 & 166.137.12.240 don't link to any specific member, there is only one forum member who's IP starts with 166.137, that being Faenyx. Those two IPs and Faenyx's IP land in the same vicinity. 2) - The IP responsible for the 1st Forum Deletion (as well as the deletion of the art gallery) is Teflon's. |
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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 21:36:57 GMT -5
Assumption
A) - Hacker did not hack Proboards directly. Hacker requested a password reminder be sent to the admin account's email (which is Auburn's email (auburneye@hotmail.com)), then the hacker somehow entered Auburn's email and retrieved the password, then proceeded to cause chaos.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 21:55:42 GMT -5
Backgroundsupport.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=support&thread=363831&page=1support.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=support&action=display&thread=365906&page=1These two threads provide a summary of what happened. Personal TestimonyAfter the first forum deletion (and revival) I changed the admin email to something different, however I do not remember changing the password of auburneye@hotmail.com itself (flaw on my part) thus the hacker still had access to that email address. Nevertheless if he tried to send a password reminder now, he wouldn't get the new password. The only way he could get the password now would be to brute force the new email somehow. Considering the interval between the first and second forum deletion, it seems unlikely that he'd be able to hack it again. So then how did he hack it the second time? How did he get the new password if I had just created it? Unfortunately, I made the mistake of sending the new password in a PM to Commandolam on INTPFoum (because we both share the admin password, since I basically transferred the forum down to him). So the only other person who knew the new password was Com, meaning that makes Com a suspect. However, INTPforum has an option to send you an email when you recieve a new PM - an option which I had turned on, meaning that the hacker (who still had access to auburneye@hotmail.com) could read my INTPforum PMs in the preview window of the email. In short I sent the new password to com via a PM, but INTPforum send an email to me (auburneye@hotmail.com) when Com replied - which displayed the new password in open sight to the hacker. The hacker then got the password and proceeded to cause chaos again.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 21:59:09 GMT -5
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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 22:10:08 GMT -5
Zow's Personal Testimony: (as PMed to me on INTPforum) Well, there's not really a firm starting place for this, so let's start immediately before the first hacking of ProBoards, granted everyone at the ProBoards still hates me. Well, that morning, at around 9:45 AM, I got on chat and started conversating with Eva (basic chitchat), when she acts all surprised, then tells me that Dan and Com logged in. Curious to see, I checked the Users Logged In Today section, and sure enough, Commandolam and Daniel had logged in, each at around 7:50, almost simultaneously. Eva and I discussed it for the better part of 3 minutes, but tossed it aside and said they were just checking out the site. That same day, when I got back from seeing a movie with Tiffany, John comes running to me and says that PB went down. Curious, I checked halloforigin.proboards.com, and it was down, like a white screen. Actually, let me back up a bit, and tell you the scenario with Johndude. John and I have been good (well, excellent) friends ever since we spoke about the future of the site and the fact that if I left HoO, he'd leave HoO. Ever since then, he's been one of my best friends. With the current events in play, John was basically a spy for me in the ProBoards chat, gathering information I didn't care about (i.e. namecalling) and acting as a double agent toward Com, making it seem he was on his side. Anyway, after the ProBoards site went down, there was a flurry of bombardments toward me on the ProBoards chat, saying I hacked it, I can hack anything, I'm so evil, etc. (Tef even threatened to himself to come to LA with a .45, which is NOT cool, since he knows my exact address) One of the first questions I got came from John, who asked me if I hacked the site. I told him no, and that I was out seeing a movie. After I worked on the Homepage a bit, I got a PC from John saying ProBoards was back up, but in Maintenance Mode. I checked to see if I could get the threads yet, but my IP was still blocked, although the Maintenance Mode screen flashed for a split second before returning to some blocked screen. I can't really remember what all happened that day, but later that day, Com logged back in. Wanting to hear his side of the story, I unbanned his account and PM'd him, accusing him of doing it and asking him to leave. To my surprise, he replied something un-Com-like, that he did do it, and to "tell Kaix to watch out." I showed this to John, and asked him to show Com, which he said went perfectly. I went to EtF (etf2.forumotion.com) and told Kaix of the message, and he said Com "didn't have the balls or the ego to do shit." About 20 minutes later, TCE (?) started freaking out, that Kaix's profile was changed. Kaix, I, and probably everyone in chat went to check, and as he said, all of Kaix's profile data was changed. Kaix, John and I went into a secret chat to try to deduce who did it, when Kaix checked the access log. I can't remember the exact IP address, but he said one from 97.112.221.  , and a few others that started with 9?.*.*.*, but were irrelevent to me--after I had looked up the range of 97.112.221.0 through 97.112.221.255, I saw it was a Fargo, ND IP. We concluded it was Com. About two days later, John PC'd me and said that someone hacked ProBoards again, but when I got back on, it was just in Maintenance Mode again, but this time, it didn't send me to a "block" page. A few hours later, it was apparently back up, but no forums were being shown. Thinking I was still banned from logging in, I told John to login and see if it was members-only. He said that it wasn't, and that all the threads were gone. I started to panic, but kept my sanity. Not long after that, I made a thread asking for the PSO formula, and Ownagemuch posted a link to the ProBoards Support board that Com made, and I started to rest more easily, hearing that it would be restored. The next day, I checked, and they said that it was too late, and the backup could not be restored. I basically just had it and went into an adrenaline-filled rage, throwing anything not-easily-breakable in my room (room is still a bit of a mess). Depressed and desperate, I contacted Eva about the PSO formula, but all she could give were coordinates, which were enough for me to deduce the formula via difference. After that, I had gotten the primary thing I needed, which was what I REALLY cared about. After that, I contacted you on INTPforum, saying I wouldn't come back (but it looks like I will be coming back XP), and went on with my life. Four days later, I got a report of a DDoS attempt on Hall of Origin, so I checked my log. Before the anti-DDoS measures went into effect and the connection started to be refused, this was the output of the connections accepted: ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 ¦ ¦ UDP (46 bytes) from 97.112.221.136:60373 to 173.230.130.127:53 on eth0 From seeing these, and a want to be safe, I executed another IP trace, which turned out to be at exactly 1619 38th St, Fargo, ND 58103, which is right by the West Acres Shopping Mall. At first, seeing the word Fargo, ND, the thought that Com did it flashed through my mind. That would have been my conclusion, had I not checked the relative location. Seeing as how it was by a mall, I figured that Com's house was right by the mall, Com was using his mall's Wi-Fi, or someone who knew Com had his info and impersonated him, whether he used the mall's Wi-Fi or that was his house. Kaix's and my research show that both of our attacks came from Fargo, ND, but we can't say for sure that the Lam Nguyen who lives in Fargo, ND hacked our sites. That is my story and our research, and our conclusion rests at the fact someone in Fargo, ND did it. If, in fact, one of my four hypotheses is correct, then it would make perfect sense, seeing as how Com was an apparent admin at the ProBoards site. He could have easily shut down the site and deleted all the files, whether it was Com or someone who impersonated Com. However, if it was neither, then I have no idea how they could have gotten in. As far as I know, ProBoards is as unhackable as vBulletin is, meaning brute forces will either take months or be impossible altogether, which explains my four hypotheses.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 16, 2010 22:20:42 GMT -5
Basically, what it comes down to is that someone is lying here from the list below:
Faenyx
Teflon
Zowayixx
Auburn
Commandolam
So I'd like to invite all those listed to either confess as guilty or defend their innocence. The damage has been done anyhow, there's nothing left, so please let's just be honest.
Technically it could always be someone completely random (a stranger) but based on the banning of those specific members, it's ridiculous to assume this was done by someone not part of the community. At the very very least it's someone who we all know personally.
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 17, 2010 17:10:21 GMT -5
Technical specs:
166.137.12.240 is Tucker, Georgia.
166.137.15.222 is in Lawrenceville, Georgia.
166.137.114.157 is in Alabaster, Georgia.
74.193.163.125 is in Lake Charles, Louisiana, Fae's IP address.
74.193.136.249 is in Lake Charles, Louisiana, my IP address.
Neither of us have been to Georgia in the past 9 years.
I also saw Faenyx register from her own computer, so it can't possibly be a Georgia IP address she registered from.
(this is Zowayixx btw, my "Zowayixx" account is banned)
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Post by Auburn on Sept 17, 2010 17:36:27 GMT -5
The IPs and Associations I linked are by using proboards' "Last Known IP" function. So Faenyx's last known IP used to login to the forum shows up as 166.137.15.222. Whether that is her current one or not is irrelevant, but it's what's on record.
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 17, 2010 17:39:02 GMT -5
That's strange, considering Fae hasn't been on here since...probably around January. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying that Faenyx, herself, has not logged on to this site in over 7 months.
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Post by Mitt Romney on Sept 17, 2010 18:12:20 GMT -5
Yes, I have been talking to Zow while this whole conflict has been going on, but no, I am not a "double-agent" You see, I wanted to fix this, I wanted to do it single-handily. I have a small but meaningful quote from Lam "dont have answers fed to you, go out and get them". That's exactually what I did. That's why I talked to zow and asked him questions. But also, why can't I still friends with zow? I mean, if you tell me I have to stop talking to him JUST because no one else does makes you what I like to call a "follower". If you don't believe me, ask Lam. I gave him a lot of helpful things that I shouldnt have. I am sorry Zow, I was blinded by the need to find answers. I was unable to take I side, probably because I never have been able to decided on things in my life. Or let anything go for that matter. Thats the reason why I needed to try and restore our community.
I truthfully dont give a fuck who hacked the forum, no one used it anyways. I just want to know the true story, the story of the major conflict. I was careful to never blame anyone. I never said in chat "Fuck Zim, he did it" nor did I ever say to Zow "It was that asian, Lam." I was never on a side, but I admit to favoring the PB side after the hack, as for I was doing what everyone else was doing and amusing it to be Zow. Trust is a hard thing to get, no? I'm sure there is little to no trust between any of us.
I was caught in the middle of two sides, two sides that are blind by hate and anger. What will allow us to take time and effort to understand each other?
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 17, 2010 18:29:03 GMT -5
This is Teflon; my account has been somehow incapacitated even beyond the point of a ban.
As to defending my innocence, I honestly can't. I don't remember the day in question beyond seeing the forum go back into maintenance mode and subsequently die. All I can tell you is that I wouldn't have had the motivation to hack the site. I enjoyed having a relaxed place to talk to my friends about anything I wanted, without harsh restrictions or people I did not prefer to talk to breathing down my neck, and having access to the tweaking info and history of one of my favorite forums I've ever been a part of.
Zowayixx, to answer your last post: It is, frankly, irrelevant when Fae last logged in normally. Fae's IP address is not tied to her forum account, nor would she be logging in normally were she or you attempting to hack the site. Also, I have no proof beyond your word where these IPs point to. I'd like to see where you are getting your info.
Auburn, I can explain those screens. They were, obviously, taken by Kagamimimi/MPCozmo -- Zow PC'd him via friends list. I'd like to note they are the only documentation of any warning Zow had given Comm prior to filing a copyright report on the art gallery. Zow also claims the report included the favicon, but as it was changed and not mentioned by the PB support staff, there is no conclusive evidence of such.
Now on to the main business. Zow is accused of hacking Proboards Hall of Origin almost unanimously by its current members, and has admitted to the copyright reports. Zow claims not to know why my IP is in the logs, and I certainly don't know.
I would like a full, transparent, A to Z explanation from him of his motives and part in the following:
1.Filing a copyright claim the art gallery before notifying Comm
2.The first hacking of Proboards HoO
3.The second hacking of Proboards HoO
4.The PM he has showed several people regarding Comm's alleged plans to hack his site
5.Comm and Dan's recent logins on NHoO, which they deny having a part in
6.The appearance of my IP in the logs (If he claims not to know, I require an explanation of how it is possible to assume another person's IP so that I can prevent this occurring in future)
Zow is believed by most of our current members to be involved in each of the above items. If he claims he is not, I expect a thorough, straightforward alibi in each case.
Zow, I am not going to prod information out of you. If you do not address one of the above items fully and completely to the satisfaction of Auburn, myself, and our other members, I will simply refuse to recognize that any explanation has been presented.
Only when a satisfactory explanation for all 6 of the points I have mentioned is given me will I consider trying to reach a consensus. Until then, things will continue as they have, and my opinion of you and your involvement in the actions leading up to the destruction of this site will remain the same.
Total transparency on both sides.
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 17, 2010 18:39:23 GMT -5
Additionally, I would like a screen of the logs showing the alleged DDoS attack on NHoO, and how the IP was traced.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 17, 2010 18:50:37 GMT -5
Additional MaterialFaenyx's IP address proof: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-TNjwMVmOITeflon's IP address proof: www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ZjMIRvq6gAssumptionIf I understand correctly, a person's IP address often changes slightly due to various reasons, but in general the first few numbers stay unchanged. What this means is that Faenyx's computer is currently the largest suspect since it's IP is the most similar to the hacker's. It's possible that 166.137.12.240 and 166.137.15.222 were both IPs of the same computer during different dates. However, knowing Faenyx (Tiffany) and how she is, I find it really unlikely that she did this, but at the very least someone using her computer could have. This translates to Zowayixx and to a much lesser degree Kaix also being suspects.
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 17, 2010 19:02:51 GMT -5
1.Filing a copyright claim the art gallery before notifying Comm 2.The first hacking of Proboards HoO 3.The second hacking of Proboards HoO 4.The PM he has showed several people regarding Comm's alleged plans to hack his site 5.Comm and Dan's recent logins on NHoO, which they deny having a part in 6.The appearance of my IP in the logs (If he claims not to know, I require an explanation of how it is possible to assume another person's IP so that I can prevent this occurring in future)
2. I had no plans of hacking ProBoards.
3. I had no plans of hacking ProBoards.
4. That is indeed a PM I received from the user Commandolam on NHoO. As to the IP, his registration IP was 97.112.214.224, while the last known login IP was the one seen in the DDoS attempt report, 97.112.221.136.
5. I've neglected to check Dan's IP. However, Com's login and Dan's login were approximately 5 minutes apart. Give me one moment. [Update] The two shared the exact same IP address, 97.112.221.136, while Daniel's registration address is 41.245.53.2.
6. I don't know. The only way that I know of changing an IP is using an IP-changing client, such as Tor, which would have to be run both on the client and the host, which I'm guessing you did not host. If you didn't use an IP-changing client, then I have no clue.
Also, as to your question of where I get my sources, I use www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer.
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I checked the Apache logs on my server via SSH, which is basically pure text, but I can get a screenshot of my SSH client with the information if you want.
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Auburn, I looked up that IP on Google, out of curiosity. Strangely enough, "166.137.15.222" yielded some interesting results. The fifth result yielded this. If you search for "166.137.15.222", you can see that the user who used this IP address was a user by the name of knoxville, who just-so-happens to live in Lake Charles.
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Looking at later posts, such as the eighth result, then searching for "166.137.15.222", you can see a post by "Shane Miller", who seems to be an avid vehicle person. |
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 17, 2010 19:18:10 GMT -5
Why did you want the knowledge of whether he would remove the Favicon or not?
-tef
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 17, 2010 19:25:38 GMT -5
The problem with the idea of a third party is motive. Someone not directly involved in the confllict would be hacking a small, inconsequential forum that was almost entirely dead. There have been no other reports of similar hacks on PB support. We were targeted specifically, and it does not make sense for it to be done by a stranger.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 17, 2010 22:00:37 GMT -5
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Post by Barack Obama on Sept 17, 2010 22:16:18 GMT -5
Lam here.
Anyone who thinks the person in the 1st link in the post above is me is retarded and I cannot help him or her. That's all I will say.
Also, just a tidbit of info, admins on a vBulletin board can change the passwords of any nonroot admin account and use them. Am I implying Zim? Yes. Am I saying for certain it was him? No.
EDIT: So i was going though Zim's massive story looking for this amusing quote...:
Ya, adrenaline-filled rage at the sight of PB HoO not being able to be restored despite trying to tear the site down a few weeks ago.
Icanhazlulz?
...but ending up spotting this little hole in his story:
Hmm. Let's see here. Despite being banned, I was SOMEHOW able to log in. And despite being banned, you were SOMEHOW able to see me log in, using your power SuperVision of Online Users I would assume, and, with the pure kindness of your heart, unbanned me to hear what I had to say even though there was no indication I had anything to say. Okay, sounds legit.
No wait...no it doesn't.
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Post by Kagamimimi on Sept 18, 2010 14:46:52 GMT -5
So i was going though Zim's massive story looking for this amusing quote...: Ya, adrenaline-filled rage at the sight of PB HoO not being able to be restored despite trying to tear the site down a few weeks ago. Oh, indeed. Does anyone else remember the big banner he put up on his site that claimed PB HOO was destined to go down "very soon"? I sense a large inconsistency. The problem with the idea of a third party is motive. Someone not directly involved in the confllict would be hacking a small, inconsequential forum that was almost entirely dead. There have been no other reports of similar hacks on PB support. We were targeted specifically, and it does not make sense for it to be done by a stranger. Exactly. Hacking and killing a tiny little site used only as a meeting place for old friends is quite useless to an outsider. Unless if an Internet guy was "hired" to take us down. Which is still irrational, being that Zim could easily do it himself with all his virus coding experience he has. |
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 18, 2010 20:03:50 GMT -5
I believe we should get back on the that topic. No offense, it's really interesting, but it's all irrelevant. I'm sure everyone already knows that and I'm sure you already know I know that. If not, you learned something today. Please don't respond to this with any reference to this message.
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Post by Mitt Romney on Sept 18, 2010 20:33:03 GMT -5
Alright, let's stop ranting about this and everyone tell their side of the story.
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 18, 2010 21:29:45 GMT -5
It is relevant.
All this has to do with the hacking of PB, not directly, no, but it is related. I for one am not willing to move forward until these questions are answered.
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Post by Auburn on Sept 18, 2010 21:47:23 GMT -5
Alright, so to summarize and structure all that's been said so far, the following are all the accusations (and implied accusations) that I can gather from what's been said: ACCUSATIONS Teflon- Teflon's IP directly links to the hacker, therefore Tef must be the hacker.
- Teflon threatened Zowayixx saying he'd come to Louisiana with a .45 gun.
Faenyx- Faenyx's IP is the most similar to the hacker's two other IPs therefore Faenyx (or someone using her computer) must be the hacker, and the slight IP variation is negligible since IPs change slightly over time.
Commandolam- Com logged into vBHoO the day of the hack.
- Com PMed Zow admitting that he was the one who hacked PBHoO: i53.tinypic.com/2r7aa28.png
- Com then proceeded to hack Kaix's profile.
- Com then tried to hack (DDoS) vBHoO, and vBHoO's log history is proof to support this.
Zowayixx- Zow had previously tried to take down PBHoO by reporting it to Proboards, therefore since that attempt failed Zow must've proceeded to take it down himself. His computer hacking history and virus making are proof that he could've, and did, do it.
- The hacker banned 4 specific people: Com, Dan, JJ, Cozmo - which we all know are people Zow disliked, therefore it must have been Zow.
- Zow is lying regarding the PM Com sent him (it's a fake) and this can be proven by his contradiction here: "..later that day, Com logged back in. Wanting to hear his side of the story, I unbanned his account and PM'd him" seeing how Com couldn't have logged in if he was banned.
There's probably more, but for a start if the above listed people could answer to those specific points listed, we'll be getting somewhere. |
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Post by YungCereal on Sept 18, 2010 21:50:23 GMT -5
The .45 thing was me exaggerating.
As to my IP, Dan showed me how to look it up today. My current IP isn't even a near match to the one in the logs. Even the first 5 digits are not the same. The IP in those logs is currently located in New Jersey, according to an IP tracker site I used.
Mine is located about 30 miles from my house.
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Post by Barack Obama on Sept 18, 2010 22:51:35 GMT -5
Commandolam- Com logged into vBHoO the day of the hack.
- Com PMed Zow admitting that he was the one who hacked PBHoO: i53.tinypic.com/2r7aa28.png
- Com then proceeded to hack Kaix's profile.
- Com then tried to hack (DDoS) vBHoO, and vBHoO's log history is proof to support this.
The 1st 2 are covered by Zim's contradiction that I pointed out earlier. As for the last 2, which are red herrings I should add, I'd like to point out that Zim hasn't posted proof of the IPs of Kaix's alleged hacker or the DDoS hacker. I'd like to request a video showing them along with the times which the attacks supposedly happened. I'd also like to ask what resources one would need to do a DDoS attack because you need many computers to execute one, right? I seriously doubt my PC has the capability of so many PCs. And let's remove Tef's threat from the list. Anyone with an IQ over 69 knows he was joking. I mean come on, given the situation and the pissed-off-at-Zim atmosphere, I'm sure Mpcozmo was thinking worse things. |
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Post by Barack Obama on Sept 20, 2010 18:26:14 GMT -5
Here's another picture for you guys. A few people have expressed skepticism over the proposition that Faenyx was the hacker. I say we should take all indications that Faenyx was the hacker as indications Zim was the hacker. This screenie should support this move: i53.tinypic.com/30vcbyw.png |
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Post by Mitt Romney on Sept 20, 2010 18:43:29 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 20, 2010 21:50:42 GMT -5
We go to each others' houses very often, that's no secret to anyone. Also, I'll have a video of the log up by tomorrow, as my Pokemon Black Unboxing Video is rending at the moment.
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Post by spezzafer on Sept 22, 2010 20:11:37 GMT -5
- Zow had previously tried to take down PBHoO by reporting it to Proboards, therefore since that attempt failed Zow must've proceeded to take it down himself. His computer hacking history and virus making are proof that he could've, and did, do it.
- The hacker banned 4 specific people: Com, Dan, JJ, Cozmo - which we all know are people Zow disliked, therefore it must have been Zow.
- Zow is lying regarding the PM Com sent him (it's a fake) and this can be proven by his contradiction here: "..later that day, Com logged back in. Wanting to hear his side of the story, I unbanned his account and PM'd him" seeing how Com couldn't have logged in if he was banned.
- As I already explained, I had no intention of taking down the PB site, especially when I needed to copy multiple threads (which I was unable to do, due to being IP banned). Also, my hacking skills and virus making skills are no more proof that I hacked anything than is my ability to bake cookies. If you remember correctly, I've never maliciously hacked any website, and my viruses can't be distributed over the internet, due to them being VBS (Visual Basic Script) files--VBS is outdated and only used for virus making.
- I had more of a vendetta against AngelSL than I did with any of them (although you did break my heart, Coz), but I won't say I didn't have any negative feelings towards any of them. If I had banned who I didn't like, you would see about 100 names listed.
- You can login if you're banned--all you get is that message that says "You have been banned for the following reason: [insert reason]".
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Post by Auburn on Sept 22, 2010 20:20:53 GMT -5
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