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Post by Palkia on Jan 10, 2012 8:33:07 GMT -5
I really need help about darkrai tweak i surely follow the updated steps then i always fail about returning to newmoon island the music is NOT jubilife please answer this problem
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 10:14:14 GMT -5
I've never tried this before, but try to go another 65,535 steps north. Ofc do the BSoD test. If it doesn't work, try to make progress in the same, pick items or mess with your boxes.
A bit off-topic: A while before closing vBHoO, Zow said that unlike thought before, flags don't affect the Void, and the unstable areas just need a soft reset to change. But I still think that BOTH the initial seed and the flags affect the Void. In my main savefile, I can always find a Battle Tower at two coordinates (I have them saved somewhere), but they didn't work in any other game, which is why either flags or other "checking" value affects the Void. The initial flag thing is noticed at ~1000N of Eterna Forest, which is an area which changes every time the game is reset (but it has a limited number of areas, and for some reason all them have even-numbered IDs).
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Post by ownagemuch on Jan 10, 2012 16:05:33 GMT -5
I think Zow was trollling, changing flags has always worked for everyone else. You could try any FS anyway, just make sure it's a Jubilife / outdoor area before you save and reset
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 18:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, any FS would work since once you saved you'd go 65,535 steps back until it's under 65,535. You ofc shouldn't forget to do the BSoD test since too far areas are likely to BSoD. I'm not sure if the same applies to FS, but on HoO Void, saving at 65kE>65kN>65kE was safe.
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Post by Auburn on Jan 10, 2012 21:57:31 GMT -5
I wonder if the order of your pokemon in the PC could affect the void in any way. Such as in the Celebi Glitch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIz1RAg25yMBut I really don't know. =/ @ Palkia, if you exit the void, then do different things - for instance, put some pokemon in daycare/out of daycare, buy items, rearrange your pokemon, progress in the storyline/etc (essentially setting flags, as TW said) -- then try again you might have more luck. We still don't know exactly why it works sometimes and not other times...
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Post by Palkia on Jan 11, 2012 4:15:33 GMT -5
ok and to other plss i cant understand the FS,BSoD,Ofc,Flags? what is the meaning of those?
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Post by ownagemuch on Jan 11, 2012 4:53:49 GMT -5
FS is Fake Sinnoh (going 65000 from any FS gives another FS); BSoD is Black Screen of Death/Doom (when your game gets screwed because you did it wrong or were very very unlucky); Ofc means "of course"; Flags is anything in the game that can be activated, this is for exapmle whether you battled a certain trainer, picked up a certain item or not and the like.
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Post by Palkia on Jan 11, 2012 8:13:31 GMT -5
thanks ownagemuch
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Post by Palkia on Jan 12, 2012 7:25:16 GMT -5
Hey Thunderwave i walk again 62k+ then i ended in the hall of fame room cynthia and rowan talk to me then THE END
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 9:38:37 GMT -5
Ah, so that isn't a safe coordinate... try East FS, and if it's still not a Jubi, try going 65k steps north from there so you can test in yet another one.
Btw, what was the area of fake Newmoon. It doesn't need to be exactly a Jubi. The area just need to be outdoors, like cities and routes. Ofc you must be careful since cities and routes have houses, and if you save in one of these you might get stuck in the Void. The most reliable way to test is by using Explorer's Kit WITHOUT saving with it, but if it's usable, the area's outdoors (preferably register it before going to FS). The last time I got Darkrai the Area was Solaceon Town.
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Post by Palkia on Jan 14, 2012 5:36:41 GMT -5
Sorry TW but what East Fake-Sinnoh where is that after the 63,500 steps or im going to go to fake newmoon first then go to east then i will see a FS then go to east again?
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Post by Palkia on Jan 14, 2012 5:38:12 GMT -5
i almost give up on this tweak i tried it over and over again but i cannot go to the Real Newmoon any suggestions?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 18:07:36 GMT -5
East Fake-Sinnoh is the Fake Sinnoh located at 65535 steps at east. You'd go there starting from where you saved (430N), but first, ride your bike and register the Explorer's Kit (you should never save using it in the Void). Go the the East FS, reach NMI, and try to use EK (if it's not a Mystery Zone). If EK allows you to save, PRESS NO and save normally using the option save in the X menu. If EK doesn't allow you to save, from there go 65000 steps north, search for NMI, and try again.
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Post by Palkia on Jan 14, 2012 19:41:48 GMT -5
EQ what is that? EK? what are these?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 20:47:07 GMT -5
EK is Explorer's Kit. EQ was a typo for EK. Fixed. 
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Post by Palkia on Jan 15, 2012 7:36:41 GMT -5
i got trouble i use my pokemon diamond then i got to newmoon with jubilife music but when i save using the EK then it reboot when i open it BSod OMG need help in this one
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 12:16:40 GMT -5
I told you NOT to save using EK. It's rather unsafer than manual saving. That was just to confirm the area was outdoors and it was safe to save, but you should save USING THE MENU. You also should make the BSoD test which the guide tells you to (open any full-screen menu before saving). Well, you must either get an AR or restart your game. :l
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